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We must be doing well if our biggest competitor resorts to spreading false information

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David Chao of Cisco/WebEx published an article yesterday (9/16/2009) on "The Web Conferencing Blog" called "Dimdim Review".  The idea that he (as a competitor) would publish a "review" of Dimdim surprised me.  The fact that he would base his review on false information shocked me. 

Three and a half years ago Dimdim was created because the existing web conferencing tools weren't doing what the team needed and they were too expensive.  The goal was (and continues to be) to democratize web conferencing.  We want web conferencing to be available for everyone, not just large companies with big budgets.  

We not only built the technology, we built our own data centers to host the service.  

In the blog David says:

"DimDim is a web conferencing provider based in Lowell, MA that has built its business on a open source-based value proposition. They can be a cost effective solution for the right buyer but know that the biggest risk with DimDim is reliability, performance, and security. (Note: These three major risks are not directly because of DimDim but indirectly through their business relationship with Amazon.)"

It's a testament to the work we've done if David feels our only risks are based on a relationship with Amazon (that doesn't exist.)  Dimdim can run on Amazon EC2, and a few customers have chosen to do that, but they are the exception.  David goes on to say:

"Though DimDim is a SaaS-based company, they do not actually own their technology network since they rely solely on Amazon's Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2). Whether this is because they cannot afford to build out their own network or because they want to try to keep things "open," EC2 does have its limitations and drawbacks which ultimately negatively effect DimDim and DimDim customers."

I'm most offended by this article because David presents it as a "Review" of Dimdim, when in fact it's a technique some of our customers have told us the WebEx sales staff uses.  I seriously thought a company like Cisco wouldn't resort to tactics like this.

We're either being attacked for our CEO's comments that "WebEx is history" or because our work to democratize web conferencing is hitting too close to home for them.  I understand it's tough to compete with free web conferencing when you're a big expensive player, but it's not acceptable to create fiction for your arguments.

-k
Kevin Micalizzi, Community Manager
Dimdim Web Conferencing
e: kevin@dimdim.com
twitter: @dimdim
facebook: dimdim.com/facebook

p.s. In the interest of fairness, I did post a comment to David's blog  around 9am EST this morning (9/17/2009) to clarify that we do not use Amazon's EC2 infrastructure, but it has since been removed.

Please share your thoughts in the comments below.

Comments

Posted this to the webex blog, we will see if it posts or gets squashed as your reply did: 
 
 
 
you call yourself a web confrencing expert, well as an expert you ought to check your facts better. dim dim is not associated with amazon ec2 and they infact own their own infrastructure to handle the webinars. THe fact that the confrence is flash based is much more palatable to me and my confrence attendees as most have the flashplayer installed on their machines anyway and NEVER need to downlaod anything else to attend a webinar. For me as a presenter, I like the significantly lower cost - which in a recession is making ALL THE DIFFERENCE. 
 
 
 
If you want to bash the competieion, by all means do so. It's your right. But don't disguise it as an "objective review" when you can't even get your facts straight, and dont call yourself an expert just because you work for the 900 pound gorilla of webinar facilitators. I'll stick with the little guys thank you very much. 
 
 
 
I love dimdim, I am very proud to use dimdim and tell everyone about it. check out our upcomming QuickBooks Webinar - On dimdim! <a>www.alphaomega-acct.biz/quickbooksbasicssale.html 
 
 
 
 
 
Jared Finkenbinder 
 
Business Technology Solutions Manager 
 
Alpha Omega Accounting, LLC
Posted @ Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:28 PM by Jared Finkenbinder
In the interest to fairness I hope you will keep my comment up.  
 
There hasn't been a update to the open source version in almost a year. Is it really fair to call your product open source?
Posted @ Friday, September 18, 2009 9:01 AM by Joe Royall
Joe- 
 
Thanks for your interest in Dimdim open source. This is another thing our competitors aren't able to do.  
 
I'm not sure I understand your question: "Is it really fair to call your product open source?" We release our meeting server to the open source community, and many people have downloaded the software and are using it. We license the release under the GPL to conform to the standards set by the community.  
 
I understand your excitement for the next release. I don't have a time frame for that yet, but as I learn more I'll post it on this blog. 
 
Thanks! 
 
-k 
Kevin Micalizzi, Community Manager 
Dimdim Web Conferencing 
e: kevin@dimdim.com  
twitter: @dimdim 
facebook: dimdim.com/facebook 
Posted @ Friday, September 18, 2009 2:48 PM by Kevin Micalizzi
Keep up the good work! In an economy where I have to find everything resource I can to improve our student service program and provide this service in the midst of budget cuts, I praise all that dimdim does.  
 
 
 
Thank you for making such a wonderful conferencing program that gets the job done in a professional fashion! 
 
 
 
Two thumbs up! Way up! 
 
 
 
Posted @ Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:50 PM by Ron
Kevin, I emailed you last week but did not hear back from you so for the sake of transparency I thought I would reach out and post a comment to clarify a few things. Your comments were not previously published and hence were never removed. They were still pending as “unpublished” until I manually published the comment. Upon submitting your comments, you should have read something that said…“Comments are moderated and will not appear until approved by the author.” Since I do not actively and immediately review all the comments sent in (something that I will start to do now as a blogging best practice), there was a delay until I was able to review yours. I was planning to email you to tell you where the information came from but then heard that you already posted a blog about me removing your comments. Needless to say, there was a misunderstanding because your comments were never approved by me in the first place and I opted to just let things be in the end. I should have been actively monitoring the comments and should have reached out to the blogging community sooner to correct the situation. (BTW, your comments are now published with a response acknowledging DimDim uses its own servers.) 
 
My statements about DimDim and Amazon EC2 came directly for one of your “customer testimonials” listed on your corporate datasheet. ReadWriteWeb.com http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/dimdims_recession-proof_proposition.php As you suggested in your original comments, feel free to reach out to get the information corrected.  
 
As a side note, in looking at the DimDim DimDim vs. WebEx Feature Matrix on the DimDim corporate website, I noticed there were quite a few inaccuracies. WebEx does provide a browser-based web collaboration solution with web page sharing, custom branding, eLearning integration, etc which DimDim claims WebEx does not support. I would be happy to work with someone to correct the information. Thanks for your time.  
 
Posted @ Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:04 PM by David Chao
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